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Racer Y
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Now make one with a loop in it.
Racer Y
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Quote from Scawen :I have also noticed that many of the modern sim community members have never heard of LFS. And some don't think it is even possible to try it because it is not on Steam, and the thought of using an installer just makes them say "WTF" and that seems very strange to me.

We can't afford advertising so as ever before we will have to rely on word of mouth (or word of text). There was a quiet time in development (probably inevitable after many years of hard work) but we are really working hard again now to produce more content and update the code. So I believe in time it will pick up again and we are making our best efforts to make that happen. But no matter what we do, it will only spread if the community tells people about it.

Word of mouth..... I can tell you a few big names and a few more up and comers in the gaming industry are finding out about you and your little game - sans steam.
Yeah. I don't really know who any of these people are as they are my son's people, but I do know they've been turned on to LFS.
Ever had any experience with venture capitalists?
Racer Y
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30 old? Hell that's just post puberty.
Racer Y
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Quote from Racer X NZ :Racer Y: 'We Poly's' are not 'white', thank you...!!!'

Forbin, I have read your post's and I agree with you. Just have the respect to look at mine please.

CDC(US), GlaxoSmithKline, Dr. Peter Fletcher, who was the UK's chief of medical safety in the late 1970s, Vaxxed, all suggest, that there are potentially serious health issues with the MMR vaccine.

Why not actually investigate this rather than demanding that any questions are 'CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT MUST BE IGNORED'

I'd have thought that a review proving this opinion wrong would be a correct scientific choice. Especially as there is scientific research (CDC, GlaxoSmithKline, and others) suggesting there may be a serious problem here.

But clearly ignoring any and all facts is the correct choice.

oops. Sorry.... You type white....
Forbin.... Forbin is a master of cut and paste. I share FIRST HAND knowledge from FIRST HAND experience and no nuts tells me I don't know what I'm talking about and puts up these links.... Really? Links?
I had posted a reply putting them in their place... guess I screwed up and didn't actually post it.
I ain't re typing it. Could care less how Forbin thinks - if they think.
Autism is on the rise.... but a big chunk of that is from misdiagnosis. Meaning a lot of people called Autistic really aren't. It's amazing that most of that chunk are boys that didn't get that diagnosis until after starting school and showing some sort of problem whether behavior or academic. They slap that label on the kids and pump em full of dope. I've SEEN it (yes SEEN it Forbin, not read about it) a bunch of times. I also help take care of my best friend's "kid" who really IS autistic. Yeah. He's 24. He got his from genetics. Not from making a bad grade or throwing a tantrum in class. WE are also friends with a family whose Mother and Daughter are autistic. Females with autism, legitimate autism, is rare. It seems to favor males. Don't go out to east with these folks. And if you do, don't go to a favorite restaurant.
Their, the mother's idiosyncrasies usually drives wait staff up the wall. And they usually don't realize it's Autism. They seem to think that they are just @sshole customers.
Now if these vaccines were the main culprit, then the autistic population would be a whole lot more than what it is, don't you think. Forget all the stupid links. most of those are agenda based anyhow. Use common sense. That many immunizations, all over the damned planet and only THAT many cases of Autism? That number should be higher. A lot higher. Wouldn't you think so?

Polynesian huh? Ever see a move called "The Brother from Another Planet"?
If I ever get down that way, maybe you can teach me how to surf...it'll get me off your couch.
Racer Y
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Quote from Racer X NZ :Strange, I was talking about the Pentagon and the CIA fighting each other in Syria, now suddenly we are on the Golan Hights and talking about how beautiful the view is.....


I thought not.

"...the fact that Americans are and will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white, and blue Cheney that’s being jammed up their ****s everyday."


.... Cheney? Uh.... you do know it's 2016 and that Haliburton is hemorrhaging employees like a hemophiliac into cutting, don't you?

LOL I knoew this dude. He came from Lebanon. He's our age and he grew up in that place in the 70's and 80's. His parents got up money and go him out of there before he became a statistic. Yeah, they wanted him to be someplace safe.... so they send him to Texas to live with relatives. Yeah too bad the relatives live in vatoland. He fit right in. You know, he even had a 64 super sport impala. Yeah. He used to ride around on this dinky little scooter. I don't know where he kept it, but he had this sawed off shot gun hid on the thing. This was before concealed carry and all that. It actually used to be illegal to carry a gun in Texas for a short time. Glad we finally ran off those damned liberals...
For a while, we were neighbors in these apartments. One Friday, when I was coming home from work I see all these cop cars in the apartments....So he's at the store down the street and going home. some weird assed drunk guy was walking down the road and decided to mess with him. In Texas, people that ride scooters aren't given respect by anyone. Even idiots too drunk to be allowed to drive. As a biker, I personally think of scooters as slow moving death traps, no disrespect, just wonder why not get something safer?
Anyways he's coming home and this drunk guy messes with him as he rides by. Well he flips the drunk off and continues home, about a block or two away. After he parks his scooter and gets to his door, there's the drunk guy, almost in his face. He's threatening to F*ck him up. Our Lebanese vatoloco has his shot gun, so he's not the one in trouble here. Well he takes the gun and makes sure this intoxicated moron knows he has it. and tells him to leave him alone. Yeah. that worked. So then he points it right at the dude's head. Still no effect. so he puts it off to the side and fires. He told me he wanted the drunk guy to feel it whiz by and he's a pretty good shot. Where we lived was the border between two gangs. There was... border tensions that week and the place was already crawling with police so they so up all at once after hearing the gunshot. I didn't hear the shot myself. Hey it was the nineties! I was stoned with Alice in Chains on too loud! but I saw all the police swarming the place and what I saw next was even more bizarre. I'm pulling into the parking lot full of cops and they and my friend (shotgun disappeared and cop story slightly altered) all have this dumb look on their faces and there's this totally drunk guy doing cartwheels.... I miss the good ol days. That day? Not so much.
I like Lebanese food. Had some a couple a nights ago.
Racer Y
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Racer X.... first off "Indians" are Caucasoids. Like you white boy.
Second.... I figure that movie is twisted and slanted like every other documentary out there. There's not really such a thing as objectivity anymore.
But Autism.....
YOu know up until my kids were born, in the Early nineties, You never really heard of Autism. As a parent you had about the same chance of having an autistic child as you did .... conjoined twins? It was really really really rare. Then virtually overnight that changed. It seemed like every other birth was autistic.
One of the problems that film blatantly disregards in order to promote it's anti-pharm agenda is probably one of the biggest reasons for the "autism explosion" is mis-diagnosis. It's become a blanket, one size fits all over diagnosis.
Having experience in dealing with autism, I find that about 60% of the people that I know diagnosed with some sort of Autism, aren't autistic at all.
They now use that label to cover everything from mild retardation, to hyperactive kids to... well Brats.
Like my co-worker's stepson. I dunno why he married this chick. She was a single mom that spoiled her son to death. He became a spoiled, self entitled brat - lol Like most millenials are...
Seriously, the kid is dummer than a sack of hammers and a brat too.
Well instead of getting what he really needed, an ass whipping, mom decides the reason her kid is off must be a medical reason. So Presto! the right amount of money, the low enough standards from the right doctor and instead of a little incorrigible sh!t, you have the next Rain Man.
I have never ever seen an autistic child play school sports, play in the school band and drive a car. Never. And especially all three at once.
Yet this kid does.... he doesn't do his school work either. He also does all sorts of other things that most autistic children don't do. It's kin of hard to explain. If you knew some one with autism and then saw this kid, you wouldn't think he was that way.
Yeah the movie claims that the autism is produced from chemicals used in immunizations. If I'm not mistaken, measles vaccine in particular.
I'm thinking with all the resources big pharm has, if they had a potentially devastating product as autistic causing vaccines, they'd get rid of it and replace it with something else, which is one of the things they did with most vaccines in the first place. They wouldn't risk losing all and being brought down by whistle blowers. YOu may be able to beat that sort of thing in court, but you always lose to word of mouth. So. yeah, I find it hard to believe big pharm would allow a screw-up like that go on for very long. Even though they are the same great folks that brought us lunesta and zoloft and created the dreaded disease, shift-worker's syndrome, I'm thinking there are a lot more factors to be examined to explain the autistic revolution going on.
By the way, you never responded to my criticisms of Bernie Sanders.
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Racer Y
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Wow.... there was actually someone else on the server to ban you to begin with?
Racer Y
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Quote from ACCAkut :...just why do you spend so much time posting stuff like this on a sim racing forum?

Hey man. Gotta do something while waiting for S3. But yeah, there are things that reall REALLY matter.
What we need to be posting about is this:

http://weeklyworldnews.com/tag/bat-boy/
Racer Y
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Why do you think so many Americans are sick of Syria and really would rather let it be Putin's baby? When you fund a guerilla war, you fund ONE faction and support it. Especially in a civil war like this one. You're going off about Israel.... And BMX was describing the Golan Heights.
That's who I find a little interesting are the folks in that area. The Druse. Israel should use them to take over all the Golan heights and the area north of it and make it Israel. See when everyone talks about Israel - they limit everything to it being Jewish. It's not. It's Jewish dominated. Know how many redneck Christian zionists had a near heart attack when they found out about Islamic Generals in the "Jewish" army?
The Kurds...They're "our muslims"....Til they go back to honor killing once this is all over.
I'm in the crowd that thinks we should get the hell away from there.
Unfortunately we are pretty much owned by the Israelis and the Saudis.
So we're kinda stuck being overly involved there.
There's really no real shady conspiracy of oligarchs like you've been led to believe. It's just common sense politics and economics turned into one hell of a high stakes poker game. all that big brother corporate mumbo-jumbo? A system that entrenched in short-sighted greed could've never attained such heights to be able to accomplish all that. Too many underlings on the ladder yanking the ones above off and teh ones below them doing it to them. How COULD the powers that be focus on anything more than their own survival in an environment like that. YOu should really be wondering why YOUR country is throwing sex toys at it's leaders. And what can you do to fix things there instead worrying about what some thirty something that lives with his parents in Indiana is posting on the internet about Walmart's plan for world domination and trying to build things up from there.
As far as refugees ans asylum seekers goes? There's a whole planet out there for them to go to. Instead of them going to Euroland like now, send them to Third world countries. Places where these people's skills can be needed and utilized instead of places where they become economic competitors on the job market for the host nationals.
How many of those people we see running around in southern Europe are actually Engineers or financial or medical professionals? How many are highly skilled laborers?
If it were me. Like if I was telecommunication engineer tired of getting shot at, I'd much rather go to Guyana where there's a future as long as I pursue it as opposed to Austria, where I'd be lucky just to get assistance and if I'm really lucky, a job interview.
Doesn't that make more sense than the current nonsense?
Racer Y
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Quote from Gutholz :Appearently yes, although http://www.rockingham.co.uk/venue-hire/circuit-layout/ only lists 5 layouts.
Other sites list more layouts: http://racingcircuits.info/europe/united-kingdom/rockingham.html#.Vv91BSvKtpg
Maybe it changes over time or by demand. Also see the google-earth view.

LOL Yeah... right after RIGHT after I posted this, I thought "google Earth" Face -> palm.... I do that with other places, don't know why I didn't think about that for Rockingham too. I figured the layout was accurate anyways, more curious about the amount of layouts though and wasn't sure how to find that out though.
Thanks. Smile
Even More S3 Whining
Racer Y
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S3.... Rockingham. I really don't have anything TO whine about, but I promise to make something up at the end of the post. I'm really just really curious about the track and had a stupid question to ask about it.
Rockingham. So if I was in an aircraft and was flying directly above the place, it would look like the map in the start-up screen? I'm sure it does. If you're going to the trouble to laser scan a track, then make it accurate as possible. So what I'm wondering is all those configurations that come with the game version of rockingham. Is that how that's really done? They have that many various races on different layouts within the oval? I know most oval race tracks have two or three. Like Daytona. Talladega has several different tracks on the properties besides the Oval. But eleven different configurations? Do they actually race on all those? LOL Never thought that Oval racing would be that popular on the other side of the Atlantic. Thanks to LFS in particular, I thought people in the UK like to see their race cars turn right once in a while. But I dunno, if the Real Rockingham is like the game, then you really have to appreciate it's genius of design.
Yeah.... Whine...OK
Uh ... You know for shelling out SEVENTEEN WHOLE DOLLARS OF HARD EARNED MONEY! You'd think they could'a thrown in trailer racing. Yeah. With the Scirocko! I mean really. You know how far that seventeen dollars and change goes at taco bell? Eleven tracks... Yeah, I coulda saw Batman Vs Superman - a REAL classic....
Racer Y
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Quote from Racer X NZ :Schwitz In any reasonable Democracy Bernie would be the choice of most voters. He has a proven track record, he's honest, he hasn't committed treason, the only thing against him that I can see is his age.


Sanders.... He sucks the least. That's about the most I can say for the guy.
Bad points? I don't see him having a strong presence as far as foreign affairs goes.
Every major player on the world stage will try him out.
15 dollar minimum wage. That has got to be the dumbest idea those liberals have thrown out so far.
Have any idea what that would do to the economy here? What about right to work states with a lower standard of living than the unionize state? The only people that benefit from that are corporations and big business in general.
It would kill of all their small business competitors and give them all the justification they need to stop giving raises and get rid of employee benefits. No one seem to think about those nasty little factors.
Besides, just what good is have a minimum wage at 15 dollars an hour when it keeps people from hiring?
Where I live, $15 an hour is pretty good pay. You can buy a house and take international vacations on that pay scale. I know, cause I do that. Jump minimum wage up to 15, and that all goes out the window, It'll be back to living paycheck to paycheck and paying utilities based on which one has the soonest cut notice.

Gun laws. You left that one out. Gotta love those stupid liberals.... This guy wants to "end" the war on drugs the government created and replace it with the war on guns.
Illegal drugs gave rise to unregulated expansion and made goat ropers in Mexico some of the most powerful people on the planet. All the liberals really want to do is replace drugs with guns. And so will those goat ropers. The left don't think about that. Or they are stupid enough to deny that fact. Making laws against something with a strong demand won't make it go away. It just goes underground. And something like firearms? I would rather the gun nuts fill out all the paperwork at Ammunation than the alternative.
Besides, why do they want to go against the will of the people on that? Know how many guns got sold after those idiots shot up San Bernadino, California?

And taxing the rich... What they really mean is punish success. What will be the incentive to do something if all you get is hit with a big tax bill? Also, have you noticed that all of the big people in the liberal arena here are super rich? They'll be sure to make little loop holes that let's them keep their money. It's all the rising entrepreneurs that will feel the effects from that. And again less incentive to expand (meaning no new jobs created).

Sanders doesn't sound so great now, huh?
Racer Y
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These things are cool. No way I'd shell out what they want for it, but Man! I haven't tried LFS, but I have played a racing game. Roller Coaster sims. That is insane. If any of you get one of these things, try to watch a roller coaster sim standing up. Think of what you could do with one of these gadgets and hypnosis.
Racer Y
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Quote from Racer X NZ :Even 66% of Americans can see that your elections are a joke !

Sunlight is the best disinfectant, and now you know…..

You wanna know something? I talk more about the American Presidential election with you than I do anyone else. And when I do get involved in a discussion, it's usually with a semi-Cruz supporter that actually what they call a low information voter. They, like me probably won't even bother to vote to begin with. I hear in Australia you can go to jail if you don't vote. LOL Atom Ant said I should move. Well can't go there. I'd be writing in Charles Manson for every position just on principle. Why bother to vote If you don't like any of them running? The only one I'd consider at this stage won't get the nomination anyways. That's that Denmark wannabe Sanders. The moment he described himself as a Socialist gave him the same results with mainstrweam America as What Trump did when he came up with the wall nonsense. Still trying to figure out how that Wall will be built and how Mexico will be so willing to pay for said wall. My daughter-in-law has family in Matamoros and Reynosa Mexico. WE also have friends and family all along the Rio Grande, on both sides of the border and in Monterrey and Jalisco state too. Jalisco's (Guadalajara) Mexican food is ALMOST as good as Houston's. Also, being Houston we have a lot of Muslims here. A lot of them are @ssholes, but not suicide bombers. And of course it's real hard to have a bad feeling about Muslims when one of our best citizens, former NBA star Hakeem Olajuwon is one himself. He actually lives in Jordan now but has all sorts of ties here still. I sorta knew one of his brothers and he gave a friend of mine two autographed basketballs. That's an interesting person. Yeah, believe it or not, most Americans know the difference between a Muslim and a psycho quoting Koran verses to justify their stupidity. The media just doesn't like to show that.
So no. We're not going to be Trump supporters when he gets the nomination. And since English is a second language for most of my area? They're going to go with Clinton. I see her making a big dent in Texas. The attitudes on immigration from the Republicans took care of that. Cruz? LOL I'm from Texas and have posted what I think about him. The only people that really support him are die hard republicans who don't have a choice and the ever shrinking base of social/religious conservatives. And then there's. Hillary Clinton. Won't vote for her. I dunno though she might just win Texas, no matter how hunch she's disliked here.
So instead of using my vote to vote against a candidate, which is what most Americans do anyways, why vote for either when the choices seem equally bad?

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/25/donald-trump-former-mexico-president-vincente-fox-im-not-paying-for-wall
Racer Y
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Quote from Racer Y :Wow. I didn't know the little deviant was threatening the whole damned planet too. Then again what do you expect from someone that has a School Shooter's haircut?

...Think I'm gonna skip work today....
YOu know there is something happening here that no one is talking about. We, the US seem to be moving towards a sort of organized anarchy. More and more of the population are ignoring the government. It's why we'll never succeed with a Denmark style government. We HATE regulations. Our government is continually trying to over regulate things. Not because of the "Evil Empire" but because of gross incompetence. YOu have a complaint about something, no matter how ridiculous, and some legislator or congressman or whoever is up making a law about it - without even researching anything. Just based on a crazy complaint. When they do that, guess what happens? We ignore it. So if it was a potentially bad thing before regulation, it becomes that bad thing afterwards.
Not Pot, or synthetic marijuana is a perfect example. When it was "legal", it actually was weird plant types picked for their properties and enhanced with synthetic THC (JWH compounds) A few idiots smoked it too much and freaked out and wound up in emergency rooms. Because of that, the stuff is now illegal here. And instead of a purified product and any development towards making it better, it is now who knows what sprayed over lawn clippings and of course it's use has expanded since the illegal dope trade knows a lot about marketing products.
And the really funny part? You'll like this. unlike Coke, Heroin and traditional narcotics, the main money makers from not pot aren't cartels or gangs. Nope. The main money makers are everyone's favorite - Islamic terrorists. They didn't have that source of income when it was legal. And now we have all sorts of idiots whacked on this crap. No. Not stupid high school kids. But people that have to contend with random drug screening. It doesn't show up in any tests - so it's a big hit with plant workers, transportation workers and any other occupation where they like to sniff your pee pee.
Racer Y
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Quote from Racer X NZ :The Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea today threatened New Zealand with a nuclear attack in response to new sanctions leveled on it by the United Nations.

The isolated communist dictatorship had earlier made a similar threat against the United States, but retracted it following President Obama’s swift assurance that any ballistic missile attack against his country could be quickly and easily intercepted.

Acknowledging that its initial proclamations were overzealous and unrealistic, the DPRK today reissued its threats, this time against several more vulnerable countries, including Turkmenistan, Iceland and New Zealand.

Speaking from Chile, Prime Minister John Key told a pool of reporters that nothing could be done to stop the attack. “Well, you know, if they want to, what do you want me to do?” asked Key, noting that New Zealand did not possess the sort of anti-missile defense systems available to countries like the United States.

Asked what he thought would happen if North Korea did launch a nuclear strike against the country, Key replied “Everybody would die.”

“Could we not at least evacuate the targeted city?” asked one reporter, to which Key replied “Not in time, probably not. No.”

“Does the government have a contingency plan if such an attack occurs?” asked another. “No” said Key.

When pressed further on the issue, the Prime Minister became visibly agitated, and attempted to take questions on other subjects. “Look, Michael, you’ve had your turn” he said, referring to TVNZ’s Michael Parkin. “I’ve already told you, we can’t prevent a ballistic missile attack. End of story.”

When asked by a frightened TV3 reporter about North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un’s claim that he could turn Auckland into “a sea of flames”, Key replied “Yeah, he probably could.”

While the government appeared disinterested in doing anything about the nuclear strike, there were some promising indications of external aid from abroad. Tonga’s Prime Minister, Sialeʻataongo Tuʻivakanō, promised that he would “look out for any missiles”, and Prime Minister of Australia Julia Gillard phoned Bill English last night to assure him that, in the event of a nuclear attack, Australia would do everything it could to provide additional news coverage. Cool

http://www.ifitweremyhome.com/compare/NZ/KP

Wow. I didn't know the little deviant was threatening the whole damned planet too. Then again what do you expect from someone that has a School Shooter's haircut?
Racer Y
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Quote from Racer X NZ :Omg omg omg
I love our conversations.

Yes, the voting machine fraud goes back to 2000, I REALLY would have thought that this would be history, being 16 Years after this became public knowledge. However, if you believe that then your completely underestimating the IQ of the average american.......
And half of them are even dumber than that ! Big grin


I try not to do that !

"On 22 October 2014, a conservative blog in Illinois published Republican state representative candidate Jim Moynihan's account of an early voting glitch. According to Moynihan, his attempt to cast votes for himself and other Republican candidates on 20 October 2014 in Cook County, Illinois, resulted in a votes being recorded for Democratic opponents instead..."

"8/5/15 by Jon Green.
While Clarkson has found the same statistical irregularity in a number of localities, her efforts to confirm whether they amount to fraud have been centered on Sedgwick County, Kansas, due to the locality’s use of Real Time Voting Machine Paper Tapes, which provide a paper trail that other localities don’t have. However, her efforts to verify Sedgwick County’s election returns have been repeatedly shut down."

"The potential for this vote-rigging cyberwar is the result of an ongoing crisis in US democracy - a silent coup of sorts. Over many decades, US elections have been quietly outsourced to a small group of private voting machine companies, some with extreme partisan ties and criminal records. They have now almost entirely replaced our publicly counted paper ballots with their secretly programmed, easily hacked electronic voting technology.

For example, the Diebold AccuVote-TS Touchscreen voting machine was recently analyzed by Princeton computer security professors. They found that malicious software running on a single voting machine can be installed in as little as one minute, spreading invisibly from machine to machine through a virus, while stealing votes with little risk of detection."

And, to bring this up to date, 23 March 2016 - Documented voting fraud in Utah, say, didn't Cruz just get a big victory there ???????
And this - http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/massive-voter-fraud-tonight-utah-primary/
And this - http://toprightnews.com/outrage-erupts-after-utah-voter-reveals-voter-fraud-in-gop-caucus/
And this - https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1068
And many, many more examples online. Well done Utah, not only electronic fraud but paper fraud as well. You have to be impressed with just how blatant it is.

And you are completely correct that there are many many other ways that your elections are rigged....

"Hillary Clinton’s campaign appears to have committed voter fraud in Polk County last night, during the Democrat Iowa Caucus. And there’s video to prove it!

Socialist candidate Bernie Sanders’ supporters are claiming that the county caucus chair Drew Gentsch in the video (below), along with precinct captain Elizabeth Buck, did not really count Clinton supporters. Instead, they were busy misleading the caucus-goers at precinct #43.

This is a very serious, criminal accusation."

And so it goes on, every state, every election, massive fraud.


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/06/02/us/politics/money-in-politics-poll.html?_r=0

Even most Americans see this fraud, so why don't you just change it ???????????

LOLOLOL You're probably on to something there. But it's a bit more worse than a couple of rigged machines. Welcome to the world of Chicago politics. Been that way since before Capone. The Democrat party Owns Cook county and Chicago metropolitan area and has a solid history of corruption. It's a amazing they don't still have ward healers standing outside the polling places with bats. But again, why would the people rigging the machines, obviously HRC supporters, have to resort to that in those particular areas, when it's all in the bag for her anyways?
And Utah and Cruz? C'mon. Learn Mormonism! Romney endorsed Cruz. That's almost like I dunno... a Cardinal or a talk show host endorsing a candidate. And as a matter of principle the religious right are in behind Cruz as a whole. There are some evangelicals (protestants) backing Trump, but .... Lord knows why...
There's probably going to be more little instances of alleged and outright voter fraud as this election cycle plays out.
I dunno. there's bound to be some actions by idiots this campaign. looks whose all involved.

You know everyone outside the US tells me they like the system we have because it's so open. WHere people like you can find crap to criticize it, and it's all taken in stride.
Yeah? I dunno. At least the N. Koreans don't have this kind of embarrassing melodrama. Yeah, they may not have any freedom or rights and the may be living on a thread, but no one from New Zealand gives them a hard time about how stupid their government is. Wink
Racer Y
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Brietbart is in Trump's camp. After the reporter incident at the Trump rally and the editorial staff deciding not to make an issue of it, most of the people left.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/14/breitbart-reporter-editor-resign-over-response-to-alleged-assault-by-trump-campaign-manager.html

66% of the people huh.... Look at how many believe in ghosts, UFO's and that Elvis is still alive.
Also, the poll is vague very vague as to what exactly it is that these pollsters think are messed up.
What some of that number may feel is totally messed up, other are fine with and dis-like something that the other think is fine.
My beef isn't with the election process - vote wise. I understand the mechanics and see that weighing in all the pros and cons, it's the best way we can do this.
My problem is gerrymandering of districts. That right there pretty much kills off rigged voting machine conspiracies. Why bother if the district is already rigged to begin with? They get the courts to redefine or create congressional districts. And it's done in a way to insure party votes from that district.
Like say the republicans want to have more congressmen in the house. Instead of coming up with quality candidates that should be able to just get more votes on merit over his opponent, they re-shape the district to where the major demographic is now republican voters. Thus giving them an additional seat in congress and only having to use a moron as a candidate. The votes come automatically.
Most of those 66% polled fail to realize this. And they equally fail to realize that many of themselves actually support this gerrymandering because they think it benefits them. They don't realize that that is the main source of our political processing problems.
Yeah notice how that works - no candidate with any real issues runs anymore. Who wants that anyways? Nope. Now it's just some clown spouting off buzz phrases. All that matters is if they have a "D" or and "R" in front of their names and the ratio of "D's" and "R's" in their particular district is in their favor.
Too many of one letter? Don't resort to compromise and inclusion to get their support, just re-draw the damned district boundaries so more of the desired letter group is in it.
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Quote from Racer X NZ :Sweet, Cruz's latest is wonderful. As almost every " BABY JESUS SUPPORTS ME" type person, it was only a matter of time till something like this came out. And at Easter !!!!!!!!

.... Look at Cruz. He's lucky to be able to have the wife he's got. I would imagine prostitutes would triple their rates for his business. He's just CREEPY. Breitbart.... You should look into them more. Especially an incident concerning one of their (former) reporters at a Trump rally and the aftermath from it.

National Enquirer? Name a tabloid owner whose a good friend of a republican presidential candidate that isn't Cruz?

But wouldn't it be funny as hell if it was true?
"In other news"... Bernie Sanders admits to having sex - 15 years ago - he thinks.

Oh and the "vote gate" in Arizona" Yeah. honest mistake by dishonest people and handled badly by incompetent people. Who the hell knew there were that many democrats in Arizona? Ever been there? Even the DNC underestimated that number. That wasn't done on purpose. HR Clinton had that state already.
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Oh please. Do try and stay relevant. Voting Machines? YOu do realize all that was pretty much debunked about an hour and a half before everyone forgot who Al Gore was, don't you?
Besides, why go to all that trouble and risk getting caught when you can just gerrymander districts to get the votes you want? It's cheaper, easier and perfectly legal.
The election process.... Where do you find this crap? I didn't know there were that many "journalists" living at home, finding stuff to make up murky connections with.
Anyways. Uh no. In Presidential elections, technically the average person's vote doesn't really have an effect. Technically. the popular vote is what's used to determine the electoral vote, but technically, the electorate doesn't have to follow along with the popular vote. They also don't have to get re-elected either.
And what you are getting things confused with actual voting for candidates is the machinery of the actual political parties themselves. And again, if you're not a registered voter for that party, you don't get to vote in their primaries. So you have no real "vote" for president If say the guy you liked loses out on the nomination process. Of the two parties, I don't know the exact workings of the Democratic party selection process. I do know it's more machine like. It's how Hillary Clinton already wins the nomination, no matter how many states Bernie wins in primaries and caucuses. Also for a party that claims to be for transparency, they most certainly are not when it comes to in-house politics.
But the republicans? I know a little about how they operate. The brokered conventions that you seem to think is the grip of the evil empire....
If and this is a big if, there is no clear delegate majority between the hopefuls, then they can opt for a brokered convention. Where it's a free for all for the delegate votes. This has always been in the party playbook. The reason it's done, if it has to be is time. There's simply not enough time to redo all the primaries in time for the actual election. This happened before in 1976, After Nixon and watergate, the republican party was dead in the water. There wasn't enough interest from traditional GOP party members, much less independents to even make much of a difference in the primaries. The delegates were free to (not that anyone cared) vote for Ford to just continue running as a somewhat incumbent so the party could focus more on what it needed - damage control.
But, and you should be more interested in this instead of all that half-baked stuff. What will happen if the GOP decides to have this brokered convention, the results will be disastrous for them. The backlash would be almost if not completely fatal to the party.
There are more radical elements of the party, not Trump supporters either that are vowing drastic reactions if a brokered convention occurs. And most of those delegates will have to worry about a backlash to their own positions should that happen. But the actual splintering of the party. I'd think you'd be way m more into that instead of some old voting machine story. There's all sorts of crazy things that the GOP break up will lead to. I know the democrats are beside themselves because of this, but if this leads to a single party monopoly, it won't be good.
And forget about who the republican candidates are. Like you've pointed out look at the other side. Hillary, if not deliberately criminal, it's at least a shining example of gross incompetence.... What President will she make? 45? 44? That Damned Grover Cleveland!
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I dunno.... What we've gotten stuck with in the US Presidential election is an embarrassment. It really is. But the rest of the world really can't say much. look at their leaders and their policies... But mind you, this is just the political end of things. The actual people in all our nations ain't so bad on average. We just have a bad habit of putting stupid people in power throughout our histories here and there. For every Obama, there's a Sarkozy. For every Mitterand, there's a Thatcher. For every Thatcher there's a ....Fujimora.
So what we ought to do is treat political leaders tha same way we do Pro Sports Athletes and Heavy metal musicians. Keep them around for a few seasons then trade them with some other country for somebody else. Or get rid of them because of "creative differences" and add a new MP to the line-up. You know something like that.
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In order for your "vote" to count in the primaries or caucuses, you have to be a registered member of the political party holding the primary.
I don't vote in the primaries. Neither do most other Americans. Most of us are independents, meaning we're stuck with whatever clown the parties leave for us to pick. What really sucks is both parties have taken such an extreme, that the majority in the middle really isn't being represented. Like I've said before, I tend to be conservative. According to the system that means I'm supposed to vote republican. Yeah right. I don't care what people do in their bedrooms, I want my roads fixed. And they've got all sorts of nut cases like people that think school shootings are God's punishment for teaching evolution. These whackos are about three shades away from the Taliban in mindset. How Could I feel a connection to a party full of that? Democrats? Yeah. They suck too. Remember it was their wanting to prove a case for gun grabbing, they allowed thousands of guns to get sold to the Mexican cartels. And how does wanting to put measures in place banning free speech be liberal anyways? Even that rare liberal that's been blessed with common sense has a hard time dealing with those clowns. So. Does it really matter if our vote counts? Look at what we have to vote for to begin with.
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Quote from Racer X NZ :Mittens filed papers with the with the FEC, started in Oct 2015, signed off on 30 Jan 2016.

And as there is no difference between either of the US parties of course the Republicans want Hillary to win. All they both want is a candidate with enough dirt on themselves to do what they are told.

Trump CANNOT be Pres as neither party can control him.

Mitton's will almost definetely stand as Cruz will face a serious challenge from Hillary if he is the candidate. Serious enough for the Repub's not to have a candidate if Cruz is chosen.

And, as a bit of a laugh, Here is Mitten's praising Donald Trump.

The only reason Hillary has survived is because the State Dept is refusing to prosocute no matter how much proof the FBI turn up......

Bubble Boy is leaving politics, resigning from congress after this term. Want to know why ??
The last sentence is relevent, this is still 'secret' (Yeah, Right...).

So, well done US, in this election committing treason against the US gives you the Presidency.

I'd like to say this is a new low, but sadly, I'll need to fact check that one........

"Attorney General Loretta Lynch declined Wednesday to discuss how she would make a decision about whether to prosecute Democratic presidential candidate and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton over classified information found on her private email server."

She really merits a thread just on her, But here's just a few facts, REMEMBER, SHE REFUSES TO PROSECUTE HILLARY !!!!!

WILL prosecute people who disagree with 'Climate Change'

Hillary case: "Lynch said, “It’s my hope that when it comes to ongoing investigations that we all would stay silent.”"

The Department of Justice would not be required to have to prosecute Hillary Clinton even if the FBI were to recommend charges be filed against her for the use of a private email server when she was secretary of state, Attorney General Loretta Lynch has indicated.

"But the bigger point is, why would President Obama tell his party to unite around a candidate at serious risk of criminal indictment — when all signs from the FBI would indicate a very good chance, if not a certainty, that indictment will be recommended based on the investigation? Of course, he would only do such a thing if he knew — was determined — that, no matter what, the chosen candidate would not be charged.

Hillary Clinton herself has appeared to think she’s untouchable — even declaring with certainty that she will not be indicted. “Oh, for goodness, it’s not going to happen. I’m not even answering that question,” Clinton said recently in Miami."

"She really merits a thread just on her, But here's just a few facts, REMEMBER, SHE REFUSES TO PROSECUTE HILLARY !!!!!

WILL prosecute people who disagree with 'Climate Change'"
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LOL figures you would catch that one.
Oh and watch for a bunch of heads to roll once she gets elected.

Rubio... He went into the election with no money. He hasn't really got much of his own money. He pretty much lost everything.
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Quote from Gills4life :Oooh a protest. Yes, absolutely genius. Vote for an absolute moron as a protest. It'll be a real win for the people if he becomes president. Definitely. Thumbs up You really think Trump will change the current system in the US? It works in his favour. Sanders is far more likely to change the system. To seriously suggest Trump will want to change things and restore 'democracy' to the US, is so naive, it's loopy. Looney

From what I've seen the people aren't bright enough to realise who is more likely to change the system if they get behind them. People think that because Trump owns a lot of assets and runs businesses (despite being in mountains of debt himself), the economy will be in safer hands. This is incredibly stupid. A country's economy is completely different to running a business or a household budget.

Stick to your conspiracy theories.

No. he's right. That's why Sanders and Trump and to a lesser extent Ted Cruz have the support they have. They aren't "establishment" politicians and our establishment politicians have become stagnated and for the most part, out of touch with the people they are supposed to represent.
Like I'm a conservative. What the hell do I care about two homos getting married? That's not any of my business - or the government's. How about finding ways to rebuild the infrastructure instead? Maybe if Trump would use all that imaginary money on building some stupid wall that won't work, he could propose using that cash to repair and maintain all those bridges and dams we built 100 years ago?
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Quote from Gills4life :I totally agree. The systems aren't exactly the same, but so similar it makes little difference and has the same effect, just at a slower pace. It still has the same detrimental effect on the majority of us.

This is exactly the point I was trying to make though. The one candidate named in the post I was replying to, that will not prioritise the interests of the bankers, the banks, the major global corporations depleting common resources at an unsustainable level and the elite that are 'too big to fail', is made out to be unelectable because he will increase national debt. Face -> palm

Too many people are easily brainwashed by sound bites when they don't actually understand how things work to any meaningful degree. This is being proven by the backing Trump is getting and also by the working class in this country that voted Conservative buying into the hugely biased right wing media that they're more 'fiscally responsible' than Labour, simply because they were unfortunate enough to be governing through the global financial crisis. They actually managed to convince a large enough percentage of this country that the Labour government caused the global financial crisis. It's scary how people just believe it and then when they're ask to justify why they think this, they regurgitate the same sound bites you read from these biased sources or from misleading politicians who want power. So many people blindly accept what they read when it's either misleading or simply not true. Shrug

Close, but no cigar.in fact, pretty damned close.
" is made out to be unelectable because he will increase national debt." Those clowns all increase national debt. That's not why he's inelectable though. There's more to it than that. Oh yeah, he'll increase the debt by leaps and bounds - if he had left leaning houses of Congress too. But there would be enough conservatives in there to shoot down most of pie in the sky ideals. No. he has other issues he needs to address. Like... How would Sanders do on the world stage? He's not a tough guy and our good friends Iran and N. Korea would take full advantage of that.
Trade deals? What does that little socialist know about free trade? Especially seeing how he wants to regulate it to death. If that's such a good idea, then why are so many industries moving from California, where overregulation is king, to Texas where there are no such restrictions? Even with the oil falling, we're still able to function quite well. He's a big fan of raising the minimum wage to where it becomes a working wage. Meaning you can actually live off it. That looks pretty good on the surface. "Looks"... If that is done, where you can now make as much money flipping burgers as what you can make doing heavy construction, skilled labor or entry-level financial, where will the incentive be for people to pursue those careers when they make the same amount of money just by asking us if we want fries with that? And again blanket social policy WILL NOT WORK in the USofA. And that's what he's pretty much based his platform on.
Socialized medicine.... What a crock.... How many of you Eurotypes look at the prospect of going to jail for income tax evasion if you can't afford health care? Yeah. That's our version of socialized medicine.
No better service, no real affordability, just a law saying you have to have insurance. And they will penalize your income if you can't afford it. Doesn't that make sense? And forget about subsidies. The subsidize crap is pretty much a lie. I can go on all day about how big a mess Obamacare is here.
Sanders wants to scrap Obama crae with a single pay system. Sounds good to you realize what that payment is going to be and of course he'll still rely on the income tax punishment as a way to enforce that and it really won't do a damned thing as far as improving healthcare.
Sanders and Trump.... You know we were all taught as kids to know B.S. when we see it. Did people forget that somehow?
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